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Last night I went out to meet with [livejournal.com profile] rm (who, for those of you not following my current obsessions, is my lovely partner-in-crime in Swordspoint fandom) at a pub, and proceeded to attempt to out-do each other with stories on topics such as "large fires I have been involved in", "inappropriate violence I have commited", and- this is the most relevant, as you will see- "random strangers who have taken it upon themselves to tell me their life stories".

As we're talking, a man with a heavy accent standing nearby at the bar begins shouting into his phone, "I think I'm in New York! Am I in New York? I don't know- I might be in New York?", and we glance at each other, because really, how do you end up in the middle of fucking Manhattan and not know you're in New York? A minute later, he leans over to us and asks, "Excuse me, can I ask you a question? Is this New York?" We reassure him that it is indeed, and once he steps away, try to figure out if he was legitimate, or if we had been part of some sort of elaborate joke.

Shortly later, he comes back and asks, "Can I sit here?" I was too surprised to answer, so he sits down in our booth next to me and explains that he has set up his female friend with a man, and now wants to give them some privacy. "I used to be so shy I wouldn't talk to anyone," he says, in an extremely thick, slow southern accent. "But then I realized that everyone was sick in one way or another, so now I don't mind talking to strangers. Everyone's crazy somehow." [livejournal.com profile] rm and I burst out laughing because, given that we have just been interrupted from a discussion of (what else?) Swordspoint BDSM porn, the many, many ways in which we could demonstrate our own craziness are staggering.

So, he asks us the typical things, where we're from and what we do and so on, while I mostly waited for him to either go away or become annoying enough that I'd feel justified in telling him to go away. He was particularly enamored of the exotic tools I must have, as an archaeologist; "Not really," I told him, "most of mine came from Home Depot." [livejournal.com profile] rm said that the most unusual people shopped at Home Depot: 2am in the ropes and chains aisle had been where perverts cruised for dates in North Carolina. I figured this was an excellent topic to freak out the guy enough to leave, so we began avidly talking about the opportunities to test out ropes before taking your new partner home and so on.

It did not work. Instead, the guy spoke up to inform us that he, in fact, preferred to use neckties, and that Home Depot was not the perfect place, because you couldn't get fuzzy handcuffs there. He said, "But that wasn't what ruined my life. It was an omelette and a thong: no twenty-year old man can resist that."

I don't know about you, but I am incapable of hearing such a sentence and not needing to hear the story behind it. I no longer wanted the dude to leave; instead I said, "Okay, wait, now you have to explain that."

It involved his best friend from high school, who had once looked like Opie, but who he had come back from the army to find had become a "real woman", beautiful beyond compare. Everything had come to climax one morning when she made him an omelette (with cheese and caramelized onions, fluffed with water, not milk, and good water, not that heavy, mineral-laden kind) while wearing a thong and stiletto heels. Unfortunately, she had later become a stripper and drug-addict, and his house and thousands of dollars "went up her nose". He had photos of both the woman and the omelette, to prove their irresistibility, but not on him. However, he had now learned his lesson, and he doesn't get involved with women like that anymore.

I think this was when I decided I needed a drink, and we all ordered. Which somehow led to his professing to disbelieve anyone of my "generation" would know what cooties are. [livejournal.com profile] rm, who fences, mentioned off-hand that if only she carried her weapons with her, she could defend herself from random guys in bars.

"You don't need to defend yourself! I'm not even sitting next to you," he said.

"But you're sitting next to me," I pointed out. "She might need the weapons to defend me."

He turned to me. "Now, you might be all scrunched up in the corner there,"- I had wedged myself in the back of the booth up against the wall, but because I don't like being touched by strangers, not because I was actually afraid of any advances from him- "but you can't say that you need to be defended. I haven't done anything wrong."

Of course, you could say that if someone notices body language messages like that and yet chooses to ignore them, they're not exactly in the right, so we began (jokingly) wondering exactly how ethically problematical it would be to stab him, since he had sat down at our booth first.

His (very drunk) female friend, who was not seeming all that interested in the man she'd been talking to, came to sit with us, interrupting that. She called him Tony (the first I'd heard of a name for him), attempted to figure out how to use his camera and took a photo of the side of my head, debated whether her man looked more like Tim Robbins or Matthew Mcconaughey, and told us repeatedly to tell 'Tony' that he was "funny. Ha. Ha.". He told her, "They were threatening to stab me. If they did, I'd be really real!" although I was laughing way too hard (why it's funny is complicated, but if you don't get the reference, believe me, it's insanely fucking hilarious) to hear why on earth he said that.

His friend went back to her man, and Tony explained to me that he was good for getting men talking, and then he'd hand them over to her. "If they're attracted to you, are you sure they're going to be interested in her?" I asked.

He wagged his finger at me. "That's not funny. I'm part of the secret guy's club; I know the handshake and everything. I can get them talking. I'm real good for starting conversations, but I can only talk about sports for a few minutes. Then I'm done." I had absolutely no idea if this was his way of confessing to me that he was straight or gay, but then he assured me that he "liked beautiful women. I'm attracted to beautiful women."

His friend had gone somewhere (to the bathroom? outside to smoke?), so Tony got up to talk to her man. Whereas she had continually been giving off every signal of not being too into him, the two men were quickly leaning into each other and laughing and talking quickly. [livejournal.com profile] rm and I tried to figure out what the hell was going on with the interpersonal relationships with these people, and who was interested in who. We couldn't decide, but agreed that the whole thing absolutely had to be a livejournal post.

He came back to join us after a while, bearing photographs of a construction project he had worked on. He pointed out that he was actually in some of the photos, in case we thought that he was lying, and we told him that we hadn't been curious about that. [livejournal.com profile] rm asked him why, exactly, he was so good at talking to men, if he was sure he wasn't gay. "I wish I was! Do you know how easy that would be?"

We cracked up and asked him if men often hit on him. "All the time. You know I'm not gay, don't you?"

"We don't know you at all," she said. "The important thing is if you know you're not gay."

He then proceeded to tell us a story about how, until he was eight, he had spent every afternoon in his grandmother's beautyshop, listening to the women talk. When he was bored, he would shampoo and fluff the hair on his pet poodle, Pierre, and paint his nails. And then sex ed had begun at his school, and he had written a paper detailing how to find the G-spot and how to last for four or five hours during sex, and the counselor and principal had been called in. It was decided he would spend his afternoons at his grandfather's furniture factory from then on instead. And this was why he related so well to women (yeah, I don't know what that had to do with the question, either.) In the progress of this story, by the way, he referred to himself as Alan (Allen? I don't know. Certainly not Tony).

"But didn't spending time at the factory change anything?" I asked.

Of course he had listened to the men's poker games just as he had earlier listened to the women in the beautyshop. One day, when he'd fallen asleep, some of the guys sealed him in a box and pretended they were planning to ship him away with the rest of the furniture. He woke up and started yelling for them to let him out, and when they didn't, he "struck on the ultimate line. I said, 'Basil Roberts, if you don't let me out of this box right this minute, I'll tell your wife about your girlfriend and your girlfriend that you call her a fat whore!' And the next thing I knew, the box opened up."

Once we had stopped laughing at that, we moved on to assessing the progress of his friend with her man. "Look, he's finally touching her!" I said, since he had put his hand on her arm. Unfortunately he heard me, flinched and pulled back.

"They look like they're discussing O. Henry," he said. "They haven't even moved on to Romantic poetry." This is particularly bizarre because less than two minutes earlier, he had teased [livejournal.com profile] rm for using the word 'interject' in conversation, and yet now was name-dropping O. Henry himself.

"What's going on with you?" [livejournal.com profile] rm asked. "Are you really just friends, or is she secretly in love with you, or..."

He leaned in and lowered his voice. "Let me tell you something. When I was in college, I broke one of my cardinal rules. You might not know anything about writing, but let me tell you, it's very, very intimate." We glanced at each other and assured him that, yes, we might be aware of a few things about writing. "You've got to be careful about who you co-write with. You can get very emotionally involved, so you can't do it with just anyone; it's like having sex. Now this friend of mine, she wanted to write together. And women don't like to hear 'no'. When I was in college, I wrote with this guy, a friend of mine, and that's when I learned you have to be careful." What on earth happened to him in college, or what it had to do with this female friend, we never got to learn, because the friend walked over at that point. As they were talking, [livejournal.com profile] rm and I leaned in to babble 'I cannot believe this is happening' at each other, so I missed how it happened, but somehow I turned to look, and he was insisting his friend slap him in the face. She refused. He told her to again, and she did lightly. "No! Harder!" he said, taking off his glasses. "Really hit me!" She did, slightly harder, though it was still clearly nothing more than a pat. I was too busy alternating between staring and laughing too hard to breath to say anything, but [livejournal.com profile] rm demonstrated how to snap your wrist at the end of a slap to put real force into it.

"Try again!" we told her. She did, though it was still not really a slap. At that point they wandered away.

He did come back just before he left, dressed in a black, double-breasted jacket that, though I hate to support stereotypes, didn't really seem like the typical dress of a construction worker from Nashville. "If you see me on TV, watch me, okay?" he said, very drunk and in what now seemed to be a British accent. "Look for me in two-oh-eight, spring."

I have no idea if these people were legitimate, insane, very quiet performance artists, or practicing on us for the new version of Borat. But my god, that was a memorable evening.

Date: 2007-01-22 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
This made me laugh all over again. My god.

And I'd forgotten both about the cowriting thing and the "really real" (WTF?!?!) thing.

Date: 2007-01-22 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Hahaha. Oh my God! I forgot the part where he made his friend hit him!

Hang on, I have to edit that in.

Date: 2007-01-22 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
And we critiqued her skill!

Also, maybe I'm just vain, but I did find it a little odd that he never asked what weapons I was referring to or why I was casually discussing weapons. I mean, did he just think all NY'ers carried knives and I was being lax that evening?

Date: 2007-01-22 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Yes! It is unbelieveable that there were so many weird things going on that I feel like I'm forgetting most of them.

No, I thought that was weird too. How many people just let mentions of weapons pass by without needing to follow up? What kind of conversations is he used to if that's not something that would strike his interest? Though maybe that explains the 'really real' thing: you become a true New Yorker once someone's stabbed you in a bar.

Date: 2007-01-22 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wesleysgirl.livejournal.com
Holy crap, that was amazing! It brings to mind a night, my first semester in college, when for some reason I was hanging out with a couple of people I liked and a couple of people I really, really didn't like, and somehow we were all drinking (although I don't think any of us were legal. I have no idea where the alcohol came from. Although I do remember that the proper way to smuggle it into the building was in the back -- people would lower a pillowcase tied with a rope from upstairs, the person outside would put the bottles of booze in, rope-people would pull up the booze, tah-dah! I also remember that someone once smuggled in a bunch of liquor in a guitar case.) Anyway, where was I? Oh, right, so I was kind of drunk and for some reason when one of the guys I didn't like said I was being mean to him (which I wasn't, really, it was just that he was one of those Way Too Good-Looking People and he was used to everyone being super nicey-nice) I told him it was because I didn't like him. He was horrified and asked why I didn't like him, and I told him it was because he was an asshole, obviously. And then the rest of the evening went on from there.

I haven't thought about any of this forever, LOL!

Your story was awesome. That guy was so weird!

Date: 2007-01-22 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] weirdquark
That's awesome.

The only time anything remotely similar has happened to me was when I was hit on by a 40-something-year-old hobo from Virgina in clown makeup who was making balloon animals in the subway. He escorted me on to the subway car, and we chatted until our stop. He asked me to dinner, and while I don't think I would have gone anyway, I already had plans for the evening. This was somehow not skeevy at all. I suspect this was due to the big innocent clown eyes.

Oh, and there was the time my friends and I were wrestling in the park and were given an inflatable squeaky hammer with hearts and peace signs on it by stoned Irishmen who were killing time before going to catch their train.

Date: 2007-01-22 02:18 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-01-22 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasakisilver.livejournal.com
The hell? Anyway, that's awesome.

Date: 2007-01-22 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Dude, I know. But it was!

Date: 2007-01-22 02:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-01-22 02:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] melebeth
Wow.

That's one of those stories where you want to tell the person "No way, could that actually have happened," except that you have to think, "but it's even less likely that someone could have made it up.

If you tried to sell it as fiction people would dismiss it as unbelievable, and yet I believe every single word.

My life bows down before your life in envy. I haven't had a story that good in years. If ever.

Date: 2007-01-22 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Ha! Oh, that's awesome. I am all for telling people to their faces that they are not really that interesting, I just wait until they deserve it so I don't feel guilty later. And this guy proved to be fascinating (if possibly insane), so I am glad I waited.





Date: 2007-01-22 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Isn't it, though? But I have crazy people talk to me all the time, as does [livejournal.com profile] rm apparently, so it was probably inevitable that our meeting wouldn't result in the craziest person of all.

Though those are awesome stories, too! I never get presents from my crazy people.

Date: 2007-01-22 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
*grins*

Ha! I think I'd be kinda scared of that compliment, actually. It's your DNA!

Date: 2007-01-22 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com
That is amazing and frightening, and it makes me want to tag along with you guys some day so that we can find out whose space-time continuum would control in the event of a conflict. Nothing remotely like that ever happens around me.

There was this one time that an escaping bank robber actually, physically ran into me while I was running to make a court appearance and wasn't looking where I was going. And all that happened was that he looked horrified for a moment and said -- I swear to God this is true -- "Excuse me, miss," and then went pelting off the instant he saw I wasn't going to fall over. It was only then that I noticed the cops and sirens and stuff. That's my universe: even when things happen to me they don't, not really.

But, did you say you're now writing something together? That is very promising news. Very, very promising; I already drool at the thought of the results.

Date: 2007-01-22 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
We're not, but we should, but it seemed really fucked to propose it in the midst of the INSANE BATSHITNESS we were surrounded by.

Date: 2007-01-22 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashoka.livejournal.com
Was he Southern? LOL. I'm sure Northerners can be just as crazily awesome, but still. Awesome story. XD

Date: 2007-01-22 05:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
As strange as it always is at the time, it makes for excellent stories, so I can't really complain that I seem to attract these kinds of happenings. Wouldn't that be a fascinating experiment, trying to figure out if some people do create certain kinds of narrative around them, and then bringing together two opposing ones, to see what would happen? Ha! That sounds like a perfectly good strange-happenings story to me, and much better than if you'd, you know, been taken hostage.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
He said he was from Nashville, but seriously: who knows! He could probably equally well have been a South African mime, man, that would be plausiable.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Dude, how sad is it that we meet to talk about fictional gay killers, and yet we manage to be out-crazied?

Date: 2007-01-22 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
That was a great story. I have no idea what the hell was going on either, but a great story.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I want to stalk that bar to see if he's pulling the same stunt with other folks every weekend.

Date: 2007-01-22 05:33 am (UTC)
weirdquark: Stack of books (and all that jazz)
From: [personal profile] weirdquark
I was really happy about the hobo thing, in a weird way, because I was convinced that that was the sort of thing that only happened when my roommate was around, and since I was alone, it meant that it wasn't just that she has this weird aura.

Although it probably says something about my weird aura that the hobo is the only person who has ever randomly hit on me. Or at least is the only person who did something like asking me to dinner so I noticed...

Date: 2007-01-22 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranalore.livejournal.com
*falls down laughing*

My crazies are generally very harmless, except for the stalkers, but you beat a guy up and he changes his mind about following you around. Anyway, I do believe that event wins some kind of surreal award. Not to mention, it makes great story fodder. Imagine someone that crazy bumping into Richard and Alec. Alec would be so torqued over somebody stealing his schtick. *G*

Date: 2007-01-22 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] p-zeitgeist.livejournal.com
Life has actually made me suspect that people do create certain kinds of narrative around themselves, although I'm sure there's some perfectly reasonable set of explanations for it -- body language, choice of activities, that sort of thing all coming together. But I have a friend whose life has been marked by dreadful things happening around the periphery, and occasionally not even at the periphery. She couldn't walk down a city street by herself without there being something that needed her intervention: rapes and violent robberies in process, people overdosing on drugs, people going berserk and attacking their partners, guys deciding she and whoever she was with were going to be their entertainment for the night regardless of whether they were welcome or not. I, however, could go to the same places at the same sorts of times and see nothing.

For quite a long time, we both assumed it was because I didn't have her eye for street life, and was managing to not see what was happening all around me. But no: it turned out that if we went out together, my reality controlled, and if bad stuff happened it happened where we couldn't see it. Neither of us has any idea why, but it's been consistent over many years now. If she'd run into a bank robber, she would no doubt have been taken hostage, or injured in a shootout with cops, or some damn thing. Me, I get the ones who call you "Miss."

Date: 2007-01-22 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
We actually raised that issue at one point. Most specifically, I said, "do you think Richard would ever beg Alec to antagonize someone just so he wouldn't look like a complete prick for killing someone just for not shutting the hell up?"

Date: 2007-01-22 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Ha! So funny you should say that; we were talking about the same thing. Except our story went (since I had declined to insult the guy to give [livejournal.com profile] rm the opportunity to defend me), what if they ran into someone so crazy that Alec was fascinated instead of wanting to provoke a fight, until it got to the point where Richard was like, "Please say something irritating so I can kill him".

Also, now I totally want to hear about how you beat up your stalker.

Date: 2007-01-22 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Oh, man, you type faster than me. But, uh, now Rana has two versions of how we thought it should be a story, too.

Date: 2007-01-22 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
*grins* Thank you!

Date: 2007-01-22 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Hee. I considered it to be pretty unbelievable even while it was happening, so I can understand other people's confusion.

Date: 2007-01-22 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Weird auras are fun to have.

It can be hard to notice (or, at least, to be certain), if neither party takes a definite step like asking the other to dinner. I'm still not sure if this guy was trying to hit on us, and if so which one; he kept telling [livejournal.com profile] rm that she was funny and he liked her, but he was invaded my personal space. Or, of course, he was just crazy.

Date: 2007-01-22 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Ha! That is possibly the only thing that could make the story even weirder.

Date: 2007-01-22 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I think he wanted me to go all dominatrix on his ass, but I don't think he was into me into me. And I sorta thought he was going to hit on you, but he never did. But then, he's still scarred from the omlette/stripper incident.

Date: 2007-01-22 12:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roadnotes.livejournal.com
You win the "weekend in NYC" prize.

Date: 2007-01-22 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Heh, I guess we do.

Date: 2007-01-22 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
I'm grateful I don't seem to create that sort of dangerous narrative, though. My experiences are bizarre, but generally always harmless. I assume it would quickly lose any appeal, if I was getting hurt or ending up worse off than before.

Date: 2007-01-22 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
Ah, clearly I should have reassured him I'd never cook him eggs while wearing a thong.

Date: 2007-01-25 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redshoeson.livejournal.com
You always have the best adventures. :P

Date: 2007-01-25 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
*grins* I know, I love it.

Date: 2007-01-28 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranalore.livejournal.com
I have absolutely no doubt that Richard has pointed Alec at people who consistently get on his nerves and...unleashed him. I doubt Alec would cooperate if asked outright, but Richard has proven himself decently sneaky. *G*

Date: 2007-01-28 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranalore.livejournal.com
Oooh, Alec might indeed be fascinated by such craziness. That could be fun. *G*

Two, actually, and I'm afraid I can't remember enough details to make it interesting. As soon as it registered that, hey, this guy was trying to stalk me, the red rage just took over. When I came out the other side, both guys were doing everything they could to keep their distance from me.

Date: 2007-01-29 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madcampion.livejournal.com
OMFG!!!!!! What a great story! But it is so obvious: He is a time traveler! Consider the opening, and the ending. Imagine him being issued his little communication device, that looks exactly like one of those quaint little early 21st century cell phones. I am now waiting impatiently for spring 08 to see what he turns out to have done. I hope you'll tell us all.

And I second the vote for some collaborative fic between you and RM. It would be a real treat. Just remember, though, you can't do it with just anyone. It's very emotional. :) :) ;)

Date: 2007-01-30 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
The only hard part is figuring out how someone could be quite that crazy.

Oh, that's terrible. I'm so sorry you had to deal with it. I'd been thinking you meant more 'annoying jerk' than literal stalker.

Date: 2007-01-30 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com
*grins* I hadn't thought of that explanation! I am so curious to see if this guy will turn up somewhere famous in a year.

Heh, well, we'll see. I don't want to break any cardinal rules or anything. *laughs*

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